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Espionage 3 / Re: What happens with the files after decryption/encryption?
« on: September 08, 2016, 09:08:18 AM »
Hey Zsolt,

No worries, man, I don't think the remote session is necessary but I do appreciate your offer!

About File deletion: You wrote: So by far the best would be to implement a shredder in Espionage, or make the option not to trash the files configurable and disabled by default.... - that was exactly my point. :)

For the 2nd question: Sorry, I know nothing about bundles, mounting images and encryption... I see now, so if the folder is unlocked the files are not copied to the HDD, they are just "visible" in the same folder as they were originally in, but they are not copied, they still reside inside of the encrypted bundle, is that right?

Thank for your time, Zsolt, much appreciated! Take care!

Espionage 3 / Re: What happens with the files after decryption/encryption?
« on: September 06, 2016, 03:05:40 PM »
Hello Zsolt,

Thank you for your fast and detailed response!

About the trash/secure delete issue: The option of "do not delete files/folders after encryption" would be great. Then just warn the user in the notification that the folder has been encrypted but not deleted; optionally with a tiny magnifying glass that would open the parent directory so he can decide what to do with it. The very best thing would be to include a file shredder and shred it right away. Hider 2 has this option, for example (you can choose 1 pass with zeros, 1 pass with random data, 3 passes...).

I think I didn't explain my 1st question clearly, so allow me to be more precise. :) What I meant was:
1. If I encrypt a folder, this folder is sent to trash... then I can decide what to do with it. An empty folder is created by Espionage at the same location, etc. (<-not important)
2. I can decrypt the folder and...
...the files are copied out of the disk image into the original folder (which was used as the disk image mount point while the data was protected) and the disk image is deleted.
And this is what I meant. The files are copied to the HDD after I decrypt them, to the 'original' location. Now what happens to those files when I encrypt/lock the folder again? Do you simply delete them from the HDD? They are gone from the original location but are not placed into the trash, so where are they? If deleted - are they securely deleted? Because if not... well, that would kind of defeat the purpose of encrypting them, would it not? They could be still rather easily recovered from the HDD sectors.

Thank you once again!


Espionage 3 / What happens with the files after decryption/encryption?
« on: September 05, 2016, 02:12:00 PM »
Hi there,

I've been deciding which encryption software to use and I narrowed it down to Concealer vs Espionage 3.
Would you mind helping me out with a few doubts I have?

1. What happens with the files once they are decrypted and encrypted again? Do the decrypted files' bytes sit somewhere around the harddrive? Is it not possible to recover them after that?

2. Related: Will there be any option in the future not to trash the encrypted data? Right now the folder is automatically placed to the trash after the first encryption. But there is no more secure empty  in El Capitan, meaning I have to pull out the trash and use either terminal or some third party program to get rid of it. So it just adds extra work to send it to trash.

3. The backing up of the files and passwords is kind of confusing for me (see the Dropbox sync tutorial). That means that if I don't copy the password of the folder and I accidentally lose my Espionage install, my files are gone forever. Now as far as I could test Concealer this does not happen there. If I change the bundle's location in Concealer, I reinstall it, I can still just choose the bundle file and access it with my password. Is there any benefit in your solution?

Thanks and keep up the good work!


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