NOT LAUNCHING AT STARTUP !!!

[acuraice]

has nothing to do with the checking and unchecking trick. that doesnt enable or disable shit. thats probably the problem. but the way i had it it was working flawlessly like the older version for weeks. Now after a reboot or so,everytime it asks to enter the masted password in the center of the screen if you enter it it will crash immediately. The trick is to enter it in the menu bar icon thing first ,then enter the master password in the center field of the screen,then it works without crashing,but then you must manually turn on or unlock the folders you want unlocked,regardless of the settings to auto unlock. this bug has happened 99% of the time since i have used the newer version. iam seriously thinking of reverting back to the older version,that does work way better except for every time you try to restore a problem 4 out 5 times there is some BS error that the folder couldnt be restored properly,yet the folder does get restored properly. these bugs must be happening on your testing versions as well. are you running 10.7.4 or mountain lion beta(im on 10.7.4) are you on a quad core i7 like me or a dou or quad core i3,i5?? these are things we need to slim down. i just dont feel like fixing what wasnt broken before. totally hate the new version,its been nothing but headaches when the older version was da bomb.com

[sjf_control]

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[acuraice]

by zsolt » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:53 am

iSpy is not there in V3 any more, it should have been gone once you uninstalled V2.
This is why there is no more password prompt when you click on the folder in Finder....we made is simpler...
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Re: How do I uninstall Espionage 3
by acuraice » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:16 pm

i think the ispykext file does still exist,and maybe thats why these errors are occurring! at least for me. when i boot up in single user mode(command S) and then shutdown the computer it hangs for a few scripts saying something along the lines of error ispy.kext.... i believe there are traces of it still somewhere on the system even though i used an appcleaner that removes ALL traces of the application before it securely deletes them entirely. strange,very strange. i will try to make a note of the exact error displayed while logging out/shutting down with single user mode enabled.
acuraice

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Re: How do I uninstall Espionage 3
by acuraice » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:21 pm

a ha!! i just did a search with a program called better search that actually finds stuff unlike apple's spotlight and the built in search function,even when the entire system's contents have been freshly indexed but anyway it found many results for the ispy.kext still found on my system even after uninstalling the older version many times with appcleaner and cleanmymac's uninstaller functions that finds and removes all traces of data associated with uninstalling user applications. I wonder if the ispy.kext has system privileges and is not letting the uninstallers completely remove it from my system even though no errors were thrown from wither app when i did the many uninstallations. i will try to manually remove all traces of the ispy.kext and then see if these errors/bugs continue to happen. are you sure that the new version does indeed NOT use the ispy.kext file at all before i completely remove all traces of it and then the new version will be screwed up????

[acuraice]

ITS WORKING AS IT SHOULD NOW!! by that i mean launching properly and auto unlocking properly!! i totally removed all traces of the ispy.kext file from the older version that had somehow escaped both uninstaller programs and now it is working as it should. but it is still annoying how you have to enter the measter password twice both in center screen prompt and the menu item prompt ,why doesnt it just unlock the menu item as well at the same time as the old one did???? bring back that feature please

[zsolt]

Hello Acuraice,
Thanks for input, this will help me supporting other users with this problem.
Zsolt

[acuraice]

you're very welcome sir!! you knew you weren't crazy by supporting the new version defending it was not buggy and worked as intended,i knew i wasnt crazy defending that it was buggy and wasnt working properly as it should however the real culprit was the older ispy.kext causing all the errors i was explaining about!! i apologize to you i fi have offended you in any way. i did mention in my rants that i do NOT hate the developers in any way and love espionage completely,i just was growing to hate the new version based on all the trouble it was giving me! i apologize again for the inconvenience

[zsolt]

No offense taken, we are all humans and react like them, and if you lose your valuable data you are not in the best mood. I'm working for a long time in tech support and I've seen this many times. All I can say is that anger does not help to fix the problem. I know it is hard to relax and think with clear head, but this is what brings you to the solution eventually.

I'm glad it works now for you and just go ahead and give it hard time, whatever goes wrong we will learn out of it. Keep a good backup and there will always be a way back.

Thanks for your patience,
Zsolt

[pierce inverarity]

I finally got around to installing E3 and I am having this issue as well. When I was installing, I did choose to automatically start at login. It even worked once, the first time I restarted after install. But after that it has never worked.

Every time I restart, when I manually start up Espionage to view the preferences, the "open automatically at login" checkbox is unchecked. I check it again, but when I restart, Espionage doesn't start up and when I view preferences that box is unchecked again.

Per one of your suggestions, I even tried checking it, quitting, unchecking it, restarting, and re-checking it -- but upon the next restart, it again failed to start up and when I went into preferences the box was unchecked again.

Zsolt, it sounds like you've dealt with this problem from a few people... what do you recommend?

Thanks,
Rich

[zsolt]

Well, try what I suggested before:

launchctl
list

(to quit launchctl just write quit and hit enter)

The in the list output you get, search if you can find these entries:
200 - [0x0-0x1b01b].com.taoeffect.Espionage3
- 0 com.taoeffect.Espionage3Helper

See if this value appears after you enable the open at login, and then reboot and check again.

Let me know the outcome.

Thanks
Zsolt

[pierce inverarity]

Hi - Thank you for the help.

1. Checked "open at login" box, then did launchctl list. It showed the following:
- 0 com.taoeffect.Espionage3Helper
318 - [0x0-0x24024].com.taoeffect.Espionage3

2. Rebooted, then did launchctl list. The above lines were both gone, no mention of Espionage.

3. Manually started Espionage, then did launchctl list (without re-checking the box first). It showed:
307 - [0x0-0x2a02a].com.taoeffect.Espionage3

4. Checked the "open at login" box again (which was now unchecked as always when I start up), then did launchctl list. It showed:
- 0 com.taoeffect.Espionage3Helper
307 - [0x0-0x2a02a].com.taoeffect.Espionage3

Does this provide any clues?

Rich