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#91
Espionage 2 / Re: I am unable to see my file...
Last post by zsolt - February 20, 2017, 06:08:55 AMHello, the instructions you found helped many users, so I guess they are written in an form which is relatively easy to understand.
The next level of support would be assistance through are remote session but this is reserved to Espionage 3 license owners only.
If you want to continue to protect your files with Espionage 3, then this will be no problem at all, if you are a registered user of Espionage 3, please let me know and we will arrange for a remote session.
If you are not, then give me a few more details which part of the instructions is not clear to you and I will try to write you a few more words of clarifications.
Rgds
Zsolt
The next level of support would be assistance through are remote session but this is reserved to Espionage 3 license owners only.
If you want to continue to protect your files with Espionage 3, then this will be no problem at all, if you are a registered user of Espionage 3, please let me know and we will arrange for a remote session.
If you are not, then give me a few more details which part of the instructions is not clear to you and I will try to write you a few more words of clarifications.
Rgds
Zsolt
#92
Espionage 2 / I am unable to see my files on...
Last post by kjnotte - February 19, 2017, 02:47:25 PMEspionage 2.8.13 with macbook pro sierra. At first espionage won't even open because it says, 'could not establish communication with ispy.' and the folders I have encrypted just say ' do not modify in this state' this file may contain encrypted data' PLEASE HELP! Very important files!!
I also tried the screen shot directions below with no luck
I also tried the screen shot directions below with no luck
#93
Espionage 3 / Re: Can't see contents of decr...
Last post by zsolt - February 19, 2017, 12:26:29 PMHello Philip,
I could not make it work reliably.
As you might know already, Espionage works by storing the data into encrypted disk images.
After you added the folder to Espionage we move the data from the folder into encypted disk image and leave the original folder empty.
When you unlock the folder, we "mount" or attach, the content of the disk image to the folder you protected, and to you it looks as if the folder contains data, but it does not, you are just looking at the content of the disk image "through" the (empty) folder.
So this mount, or attach is happening locally on your mac.
Now, when you connect to a shared folder from another mac, this mount happens too, in this case you are "mounting" the remote mac folder onto your local mac to see the content.
Now, if you would like to look at the content of an unlocked folder on a remote mac, this means you are expecting to see the content of a disk image mounted on a remote mac, through a folder which is mounted on your local mac....does not look very reliable and promising.
So let's try to do something else.
Let's connect to the folder on the remote mac which contains the espionage disk images, and then you can import them to your local Espionage installation.
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All disk images of Espionage are by default located in the following folder
yourhomefolder/Library/Application Support/com.taoeffect.Espionage3/Data
to reach that folder, hold down the option key and select Library from the Finder's Go menu.
Once inside Library, you can navigate the other folder normally.
Make the folder com.taoeffect.Espionage3 on your MacBook shared
Now you should be able to connect to that folder from your iMac.
If it worked so far, let me know and I will tell you how to import the disk image from the MacBook into Espionage installation on the iMac.
Then, whenever you need to sync the folders, you simply unlock the Photography folder and your Archive folder, both on your iMac and copy the content between them.
Let me know your comments,
Zsolt
I could not make it work reliably.
As you might know already, Espionage works by storing the data into encrypted disk images.
After you added the folder to Espionage we move the data from the folder into encypted disk image and leave the original folder empty.
When you unlock the folder, we "mount" or attach, the content of the disk image to the folder you protected, and to you it looks as if the folder contains data, but it does not, you are just looking at the content of the disk image "through" the (empty) folder.
So this mount, or attach is happening locally on your mac.
Now, when you connect to a shared folder from another mac, this mount happens too, in this case you are "mounting" the remote mac folder onto your local mac to see the content.
Now, if you would like to look at the content of an unlocked folder on a remote mac, this means you are expecting to see the content of a disk image mounted on a remote mac, through a folder which is mounted on your local mac....does not look very reliable and promising.
So let's try to do something else.
Let's connect to the folder on the remote mac which contains the espionage disk images, and then you can import them to your local Espionage installation.
####
All disk images of Espionage are by default located in the following folder
yourhomefolder/Library/Application Support/com.taoeffect.Espionage3/Data
to reach that folder, hold down the option key and select Library from the Finder's Go menu.
Once inside Library, you can navigate the other folder normally.
Make the folder com.taoeffect.Espionage3 on your MacBook shared
Now you should be able to connect to that folder from your iMac.
If it worked so far, let me know and I will tell you how to import the disk image from the MacBook into Espionage installation on the iMac.
Then, whenever you need to sync the folders, you simply unlock the Photography folder and your Archive folder, both on your iMac and copy the content between them.
Let me know your comments,
Zsolt
#94
Espionage 3 / Re: Confused about Espionage, ...
Last post by zsolt - February 14, 2017, 10:51:04 PM3. I'm reffering to "Undercover says they won't work with FV on, and recommend Espionage. But the documentation for Espionage makes it seem very complicated, including the warning about 'knowing what you are doing.'" is this Undercover documentation or Espionage documentation? Share with me the section which is unclear.
4. With Espionage you cannot protect Files, just folders, so yes, all you want to protect has to be in a folder. However, I do not recommend to protect the "Main" folder, i.e. Documents, Pictures, Music, Movies etc....the folders which are directly under your home folder, as they have special permissions and the encryption might fail, I recommend protecting one or more subfolders of those folders.
5. Yes, you have to unlock the folder before launching mail, because we cannot intercept the application launch like we could in earlier versions of OS X, you can setup a folder action though, where unlocking the folder will launch Mail, it is a bit opposite approach, but it works well. But I'm not sure if you understood what I said before. Do you know which folders do you have to protect to protect Mail?
Remote session would definitely be better then this, as we will be writing for a long time, and at one point you will get frustrated as we will not make progress :-)
I'm usually available in afternoon/evening hours of GMT+1 time zone, mail me directly at taoeffect@macmesupport.com
Cheers
Zsolt
4. With Espionage you cannot protect Files, just folders, so yes, all you want to protect has to be in a folder. However, I do not recommend to protect the "Main" folder, i.e. Documents, Pictures, Music, Movies etc....the folders which are directly under your home folder, as they have special permissions and the encryption might fail, I recommend protecting one or more subfolders of those folders.
5. Yes, you have to unlock the folder before launching mail, because we cannot intercept the application launch like we could in earlier versions of OS X, you can setup a folder action though, where unlocking the folder will launch Mail, it is a bit opposite approach, but it works well. But I'm not sure if you understood what I said before. Do you know which folders do you have to protect to protect Mail?
Remote session would definitely be better then this, as we will be writing for a long time, and at one point you will get frustrated as we will not make progress :-)
I'm usually available in afternoon/evening hours of GMT+1 time zone, mail me directly at taoeffect@macmesupport.com
Cheers
Zsolt
#95
Espionage 3 / Re: Confused about Espionage, ...
Last post by sawxray - February 14, 2017, 03:40:45 PMThank you for the detailed explanation. A few follow-on questions:
3. I am not sure what you are referring to.
4. If I have documents in the Documents folder, not in subfolders, can I encrypt them? In other words, does this mean that every document must be in a folder?
5. Sorry, I still don't understand. Are we saying that I have to unlock all Mail folders before I use Mail at any time?
I am OK with a remote session, but thought I would continue the conversation here, to help others who might be new like me.
Thanks!
3. I am not sure what you are referring to.
4. If I have documents in the Documents folder, not in subfolders, can I encrypt them? In other words, does this mean that every document must be in a folder?
5. Sorry, I still don't understand. Are we saying that I have to unlock all Mail folders before I use Mail at any time?
I am OK with a remote session, but thought I would continue the conversation here, to help others who might be new like me.
Thanks!
#96
Espionage 3 / Re: Confused about Espionage, ...
Last post by zsolt - February 14, 2017, 10:16:54 AM1. yes, filevault or Espionage, same thing, if something goes wrong, you loose, although, if you use Espionage you can do backups, the files will be protected on the backup disk too, so you can restore. Filevault is either all or nothing and to the best of my knowledge, the backup is unencrypted
2. protecting an application is protecting application's data. With Espionage 2 we were picking the right data for you, with Espionage 3 this is not possible any more so you have to pick it on your own. Which folders do you need to encrypt and how will that affect the application is all on you. I can give you some hints regarding Mail but again, this was not verified with every update of Mail or OS X. I will write a few more words at the end of this post
3. Can you share with me this documentation which seems to be very complicated?
4. If you want to protect your entire user folder then Espionage cannot do this, in Espionage you have to protect each folder separately, and these must be subfolders of default user folders (like Documents, Pictures, Movies etc.)
5. Regarding mail: as I said in my previous post, encrypting application data means that when you launch the application and the folder is locked, each application will handle this differently, trying to recover from this situation. If you launch Mail with folder locked, it will see that the mails are missing and will try to download them new from the defined internet accounts. The trouble is that it will succeed, because the internet account info is not stored within Mail, but within system preferences and those you cannot lock because OS X would not be able to function.
The Mail, however, has the option to move the mails locally, basically you remove them from the IMAP server and store them only locally. In this case, Mail cannot download them new, because they are not on the server any more, and locally they would be encrypted. So you can create a Mail rule, or do this by hand periodically, and move all confidential mails into local folder.
If you have further questions, I suggest that we make a remote session and I can explain you all in details.
2. protecting an application is protecting application's data. With Espionage 2 we were picking the right data for you, with Espionage 3 this is not possible any more so you have to pick it on your own. Which folders do you need to encrypt and how will that affect the application is all on you. I can give you some hints regarding Mail but again, this was not verified with every update of Mail or OS X. I will write a few more words at the end of this post
3. Can you share with me this documentation which seems to be very complicated?
4. If you want to protect your entire user folder then Espionage cannot do this, in Espionage you have to protect each folder separately, and these must be subfolders of default user folders (like Documents, Pictures, Movies etc.)
5. Regarding mail: as I said in my previous post, encrypting application data means that when you launch the application and the folder is locked, each application will handle this differently, trying to recover from this situation. If you launch Mail with folder locked, it will see that the mails are missing and will try to download them new from the defined internet accounts. The trouble is that it will succeed, because the internet account info is not stored within Mail, but within system preferences and those you cannot lock because OS X would not be able to function.
The Mail, however, has the option to move the mails locally, basically you remove them from the IMAP server and store them only locally. In this case, Mail cannot download them new, because they are not on the server any more, and locally they would be encrypted. So you can create a Mail rule, or do this by hand periodically, and move all confidential mails into local folder.
If you have further questions, I suggest that we make a remote session and I can explain you all in details.
#97
Espionage 3 / Re: Can't see contents of decr...
Last post by tatami - February 14, 2017, 07:13:42 AMSo the two folders I want to copy between are photography and archive. In the Finder I can see the contents of photography on my iMac. In the Finder, I can see the contents of archive on my MacBook. But if I log in to my MacBook Air from my iMac, I can see the folder photography but it appears to be empty. I'm logging into my MacBook as myself, i.e. registered user/owner not as guest. Thanks.
#98
Espionage 3 / Re: Can't see contents of decr...
Last post by zsolt - February 14, 2017, 06:55:06 AM Which folder is shared in that structure? How do you connect, as registered user or as guest
#99
Espionage 3 / Re: Can't see contents of decr...
Last post by tatami - February 14, 2017, 06:37:06 AMThanks, Zsolt. Both machines are running macOS 10.12.3.
On the iMac, the encrypted folder is called photography and the folder structure looks like this: /Users/philip/photography
On the MacBook, the encrypted folder is called archive and the folder structure looks like this: /Users/philip/archive
Does that give you the information you need?
Best wishes
Philip
On the iMac, the encrypted folder is called photography and the folder structure looks like this: /Users/philip/photography
On the MacBook, the encrypted folder is called archive and the folder structure looks like this: /Users/philip/archive
Does that give you the information you need?
Best wishes
Philip
#100
Espionage 3 / Re: Can't see contents of decr...
Last post by zsolt - February 14, 2017, 06:10:04 AMThe information put into the cloud is just an encrypted disk image, the data cannot be read in any way on the cloud server.
Give me the exact versions of the OS X on the two clients you use, and some folder structure example, so that I can try to reproduce it as you see it.
Rgds
Zsolt
Give me the exact versions of the OS X on the two clients you use, and some folder structure example, so that I can try to reproduce it as you see it.
Rgds
Zsolt