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Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

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Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

Postby pakiyabhai » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:08 pm

I have encrypted a folder onto my desktop with espionage , now I want to copy the ENCRYPTED folder on to my hard disk as well for backup.

Mindit , I want to keep encrypted backup.

Qs I have . .

1. When opening this on another mac , what do I need ?
2. I have chosen espionage keychain to store my password for security reasons , so I have two passwords , 1 for espionage and 1 for the folder.
3. What if I want to delete the folder from hdd and keep the one on hdd as the only copy is that fine ?

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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

Postby greg » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:37 pm

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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

Postby pakiyabhai » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:44 pm

OKay all my doubts are answered. Thanks you so much for the swift reply.

I have two more question now.

1. For each encrypted folder on the portable hdd , when I try to unlock or enable it from espionage folder , it gives me
KeyChain Error - Couldn't get password for 'xyz' from keychain .

My encryption /Decryption happens fine , but this message is annoying.

2. To rename the encrypted archive , I have to rename both the folder name and the .sparse image ?
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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

Postby greg » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:40 pm

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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

Postby rbenjamin » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:47 am

Replying to moving away from the keychain system... I am considering Espionage, I like it but still have a few small issues I'm trying to make some choices on before I sign on (nothing related to the app, more related to my workflow and how I integrate Espionage's methods of handling things). I read this, and it worries me - I completely understand the reasoning for moving away from the keychain as a default, but I hope you still provide the option (1Password, for example, offers this). While I choose to use 1Password's method in the case of that app, I see glaring problems with having multiple apps using multiple methods of handling "keychain" type situations, which is why Apple designed the Keychain system. Obviously having multiple possible routes which can each have their own bugs and loopholes is worse than having one. Not that keychain is without fault, and not that I don't think Tao Effect can't do a great job in handling this, but it's just the nature of the beast -- every application is bound to have bugs, security issues, etcetera, Keychain as well -- having multiple possibilities for infiltration, regardless of the quality of the implementation, is worse than one. Besides, it's an inconvenience to have apps all going their own way with regard to handling secure items, regardless of whether it is risky or not.

I wish there were more options (for example, open ones) with a good base to make up for Keychain's faults while also providing a standard so developers don't have to each come up with their own method of doing things without (significant) sacrifices of their goals. Alas, as with tagging / xattr (look at openmeta), I really wish Apple would do a better job at tying up loose ends instead of letting the developers do the legwork (and then putting them out of business by bringing their changes into the os x fold often without even a thanks). Cocoa being around for years and we just now saw Finder, the included file management app that is probably the most used application on every mac, being updated. And just the backend. I know, snow leopard was big and certainly welcome, but in spite of the great price it's still a fix for stuff that should have been 'fixed' when it was shipped (or incrementally over the years. Features are great but neglecting the old stuff until it's so late you have to sell a huge package of fixes is frustrating). I've gone completely off topic and am ranting. Apologies.
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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

Postby greg » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:24 pm

Not at all, we welcome feedback of all kind (even rant-like feedback :P).

You bring up a valid concern with regards to "multiple possibilities for infiltration", but in fact one of the main reasons that we want to switch away from OS X's keychain is because it's not as secure as it could be. Espionage's separate keychain, by virtue of it being separate from the login keychain, makes it a bit more secure, but by switching away from OS X's keychain mechanism altogether we can ensure stronger levels of encryption for protecting the passwords, and we can ensure a greater level of reliability. This is one of the areas where Apple, unfortunately, didn't do a very good job, which is why we're looking to implement our own "keychain-like" solution using .
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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

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Re: Copying Encrypted Folder t External Hdd

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