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Tao Effect Forums • View topic - Clarification requested

Clarification requested

General discussion about Espionage 3.

Clarification requested

Postby harringg » Wed May 30, 2012 2:47 am

I currently have a DevonThink Professional Office folder encrypted in Espionage2. I launch DTPO and get prompted for a password, enter it, and access my databases, .dt2base files. Quit DTPO and it re-encrypts it. Perfect workflow.

/Users/MyAccount/Documents/DevonThinkProOffice/Locked-DTPO

If I read correctly, in Espionage3, I'll need to keep the folder unlocked while logged in or use FileVault (I've never used it before). If I need to keep it unlocked all the time, whether DTPO is running or not, defeats the purpose of encryption. Using FileVault defeats the purpose of upgrading to E3.

This is literally the only reason I use Espionage 2, that single folder, nothing else is encrypted with it. My DTPO database contains taxes, paystubs, receipts, and other PII (personally identifiable information).

Should I stick with E2 in this workflow?
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Re: Clarification requested

Postby zsolt » Wed May 30, 2012 6:46 am

Hello Harringg,

You are correct, the application protection, i.e. the automatic unlock and lock when an application is lauched/quit is not present in V3.
The application protection started to become a challenge to maintain it working perfect so the V3 focused on being simple and reliable for a start. The application protection might show up again in future revisions but for the time being it is not there.

If you use a screen saver with password then your mac should be protected whenever started and you are not present, or if you put it to sleep and it requires password upon wake. If you log out or shut down, the V3 will lock the folder so you are safe again. If you use the unlock on logon option then you do not have to remember to unlock the folder before starting the app.

Indeed, it is not so convenient as in V2. So you can give it a second thought or stick to V2 for the moment.

Let me know if you have further questions.
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Re: Clarification requested

Postby pdadoc » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:08 pm

harringg-

Thanks so much for this post! This is *exactly* what I'm looking at espionage for, to use with DTPO. One question, if you happen to know.... If I want to encrypt only 1 or 2 of 4 databases, will it work to put those 1 or 2 in their own folder inside the DevonThink folder in the Documents folder (and then just encrypt that folder)? Or will DTPO only "see" the files in the one DevonThink folder?
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Re: Clarification requested

Postby zsolt » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:56 pm

Hello Harringg,

Now at the end I do not know if you want to use V2 or V3, so I do not know if your last question is related to V2 or V3. But in short, V2 uses so called symlinks to trick the finder or other application to think that the folder is there where it is expected, where it is in fact on a mounted disk image.
In some cases this did not work well and the apps would realize that it is not the real folder but a symlink.
V3 uses different mechanism where the transparency should be better and less or no apps will be aware that it is not the real folder.

But the best way to go is to simply test. Create a new DB and test with it, I do not believe that you can mess something up, but in case you do backups, then do one before you start :-)

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Re: Clarification requested

Postby harringg » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:57 pm

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