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	<title>Comments on: Logitech Control Center (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Slepak</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Slepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news, we had some time to research this issue in depth and it looks like Espionage *is* compatible with LCC, just not any versions of LCC prior to 2.7.  Versions of LCC prior to that had a rather serious bug that was not only responsible for breaking Espionage, but other applications as well. One other high-profile victim of this bug was &lt;a href=&quot;http://growl.info/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Growl&lt;/a&gt;.  The technical details are available &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/msg/a741b6a430b299b7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you&#039;re interested:

Make sure you have the latest version of Logitech Control Center installed (as of this writing it&#039;s 2.7), prior to running Espionage.  Then you can just ignore the pop up that appears when you run Espionage 2.0.8.

The next version of Espionage will have an automatic check for this, and if it detects that you have the latest version of LCC already it won&#039;t complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news, we had some time to research this issue in depth and it looks like Espionage *is* compatible with LCC, just not any versions of LCC prior to 2.7.  Versions of LCC prior to that had a rather serious bug that was not only responsible for breaking Espionage, but other applications as well. One other high-profile victim of this bug was <a href="http://growl.info/" rel="nofollow">Growl</a>.  The technical details are available <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/msg/a741b6a430b299b7" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you&#8217;re interested:</p>
<p>Make sure you have the latest version of Logitech Control Center installed (as of this writing it&#8217;s 2.7), prior to running Espionage.  Then you can just ignore the pop up that appears when you run Espionage 2.0.8.</p>
<p>The next version of Espionage will have an automatic check for this, and if it detects that you have the latest version of LCC already it won&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Slepak</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Slepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome to try Espionage with the latest version of LCC and see if it works for you.

Right now our priorities are focused at getting Espionage ready for Snow Leopard and adding various features, and as we are a tiny company we must focus on a limited number of tasks at a time. When we get to it we&#039;ll take a look and see if we can improve Espionage&#039;s compatibility with LCC, in the meantime you are welcome to try it, but keep in mind that for now this is not officially supported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome to try Espionage with the latest version of LCC and see if it works for you.</p>
<p>Right now our priorities are focused at getting Espionage ready for Snow Leopard and adding various features, and as we are a tiny company we must focus on a limited number of tasks at a time. When we get to it we&#8217;ll take a look and see if we can improve Espionage&#8217;s compatibility with LCC, in the meantime you are welcome to try it, but keep in mind that for now this is not officially supported.</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a logitech Revolution mouse on my 8-core tower and on my MacBookPro and it works with all of my programs. Your software sounded like a better solution to my current use of encrypted disk images but if your software does not work with logitech you can forget it. I&#039;m not even going to give your product a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a logitech Revolution mouse on my 8-core tower and on my MacBookPro and it works with all of my programs. Your software sounded like a better solution to my current use of encrypted disk images but if your software does not work with logitech you can forget it. I&#8217;m not even going to give your product a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Slepak</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Slepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tor, that&#039;s interesting, we&#039;ll have to look into that to see if that is indeed the case. Thanks for pointing that out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tor, that&#8217;s interesting, we&#8217;ll have to look into that to see if that is indeed the case. Thanks for pointing that out!</p>
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		<title>By: Tor</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it more correct to state that it used to install APE, but is now a input manager hack

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2008/04/15/lcc

?

At least, I can&#039;t find any APE related files where I expect them to be on my mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it more correct to state that it used to install APE, but is now a input manager hack</p>
<p><a href="http://daringfireball.net/linked/2008/04/15/lcc" rel="nofollow">http://daringfireball.net/linked/2008/04/15/lcc</a></p>
<p>?</p>
<p>At least, I can&#8217;t find any APE related files where I expect them to be on my mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Slepak</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Slepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please understand, what LCC is doing is very unethical, imagine if you owned a car and bought an iPod adapter for it. Except this adapter does not work the normal way by drawing power from the cigarette lighter, instead, it rips out the car&#039;s generator and plugs directly into the engine to get its power. The car then stops working as it normally should. Would you expect the car manufacturer to redesign the car so that their adapter works?  This (granted, imperfect) example is essentially what Logitech is doing. We have a long list of improvements to add to Espionage, and we simply do not have the time right now to rewrite it so that LCC can safely mess with its internals, although if we do find a way we will certainly consider it.

For more discussion on this topic, I think some of the comments in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.macromates.com/2007/logitech-control-center/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog post&lt;/a&gt; are insightful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please understand, what LCC is doing is very unethical, imagine if you owned a car and bought an iPod adapter for it. Except this adapter does not work the normal way by drawing power from the cigarette lighter, instead, it rips out the car&#8217;s generator and plugs directly into the engine to get its power. The car then stops working as it normally should. Would you expect the car manufacturer to redesign the car so that their adapter works?  This (granted, imperfect) example is essentially what Logitech is doing. We have a long list of improvements to add to Espionage, and we simply do not have the time right now to rewrite it so that LCC can safely mess with its internals, although if we do find a way we will certainly consider it.</p>
<p>For more discussion on this topic, I think some of the comments in <a href="http://blog.macromates.com/2007/logitech-control-center/" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a> are insightful.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2008/11/logitech-control-center/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not an option. I do not want to choose between the two apps. It is too easy to say &quot;uninstall the other party&#039;s software&quot;.

I will buy Espionage (that I really like) when LCC is compatible with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not an option. I do not want to choose between the two apps. It is too easy to say &#8220;uninstall the other party&#8217;s software&#8221;.</p>
<p>I will buy Espionage (that I really like) when LCC is compatible with it.</p>
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